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Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre

by Willi Loehman <willi@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 18, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Halfordian Golfer wrote:

>> Willi
> 
> 
> What *is* your point anyway, just to deride me or are you sup****ting
> the developers or what? Should we conserve using an introduced or
> genetically altered fish  that can survive drought flows so that we
> can drain the water from the river? That's what you seem to be
> implying.


I guess I'm busting your chops because it seems that for you, every 
fishery issue, comes back to your hatred of C&R and Rainbow Trout.

Introducing native Cutts, although this is something I favor, is not 
going to stop the construction of the reservoir. The decision on the 
reservoir will be made this Summer.

The proposed reservoir WILL have no effect (well there can always be 
unforeseen effects) on the river above the point where the water will be 
removed. It's not a damming of the Poudre, it's an off river reservoir 
that will rely on a new piping system as well as existing canals to 
trans****t water from the river to the reservoir.

My point is that no more water should be taken out of the river and that 
flows should be better managed for the health of the river environment.

Although it is, by far, the most heavily used part of the river by 
recreational users, there is no "official" recreational usage "on 
record" for the river below the canyon mouth. Because of this, like you 
heard in the Water Board's response, their position is that there is 
"no" recreational usage of the Poudre below the canyon mouth and 
dewatering the river even more will not have any effects on peoples' 
usage.  I'm in a group that's doing a study for the DOW to establish the 
recreational usage of the section of the Poudre that will be dewatered. 
I've been doing a survey of anglers to establish angler usage of this 
area. This study will be part of the EIS that will be considered. This 
is the first time in Colorado that an Environmental Impact Statement was 
part of the approval process for a new water storage reservoir.

There are three possible outcomes (There are more, but for simplicity
sake):

1. The reservoir will be built and the Water Board will regulate water 
distribution like it currently does.

2. The reservoir will be defeated

3.  The reservoir will be built but the Water Board will have to 
mitigate for the damages the construction of the reservoir will cause. A 
possible mitigation (one that the DOW favors) is to have some other 
entity (possibly the DOW) have the right to make water demands for the 
good of the river itself. In addition,  the Water Board would have to 
spread out their discharges to keep a more even flow in the river. Now, 
in order to reduce the amount of water loss from infiltration and 
eva****ation, the Water Board will "push" water down the lower Poudre as 
fast as possible. They raise the river level up several feet for a day 
or so, then drop it back down the virtually no flow after they've moved 
all the water they wanted.

It's not about C&R and Rainbow trout.

Willi
 




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Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-02 08:04:44 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-02 08:56:13 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Ken Fortenberry <kenfo  2008-05-02 11:21:06 
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Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-02 11:39:20 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-04 13:15:25 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-18 07:52:31 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-05 12:52:10 
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Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-18 07:45:17 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-18 11:28:51 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-18 14:02:51 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-18 15:51:13 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-18 14:09:42 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-18 16:37:25 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-19 08:11:42 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-19 13:07:59 
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daytripper <day_trippr  2008-05-19 20:22:07 
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Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-20 16:33:47 
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Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-20 17:26:35 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-20 21:52:14 
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Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-22 16:28:38 
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Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-23 09:40:35 
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Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-22 16:29:28 
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Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-24 08:51:47 
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Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-24 18:03:00 
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Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-25 08:24:30 
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flebow@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-26 05:24:06 
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Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-26 06:46:01 
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flebow@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-26 23:19:05 
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"Tom Littleton"  2008-05-27 01:17:36 
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flebow@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-27 01:49:59 
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Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-26 20:31:30 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
"Tom Littleton"  2008-05-27 22:19:39 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-27 19:42:14 
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flebow@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 04:55:13 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Willi Loehman <willi@[  2008-05-26 20:31:26 
Re: Your Show - Future of The Cache La Poudre
Halfordian Golfer <wal  2008-05-28 15:43:38 

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