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Re: What do you make of this?

by Ken Roberts <forums@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 21, 2008 at 11:31 AM

On Mar 21, 12:32 pm, Ground Effect <pingfani...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Betw. the statement stating
> "Given enough power any WIG will be able to fly out of ground effect"
> I disagree fully. as we have done more than 300 experiments on our WIG
> and with 300 hp 3 blade engine, our WIG cannot fly out of water and
> even go to ground effect.
> let alone out of the ground effect.
>
> In Singa****e, there is even a degree course solely dedicated to ground
> effect craft. the aerodynamics of ground effect craft is totally
> different.
>
> After numerous experiment in the wind tunnel n modelling, our ground
> effect craft changes Centrifugal point, and the plane is out of the
> water.
> and with more experiments.  changing the structure of the wing, and
> the shape of the wing, simply by tilting 15 degree, we get the craft
> out of the ground effect.
>
> therefore it is not the power that makes any WIG fly out of ground
> effect.   the aerodynamics of the craft, is im****tant.
> cheers
>
> ============================
> Ground Effecthttp://www.sea-eagle.org
> We built the first sea going WIG. Class B flying 100 feet above sea
> level

GE,

Several observations:
1 I'm purely a homebuilder, mostly interested in hovercrafts.  I have
an unfinished but operational UH-18sp to which I will probably add the
wings at some point.  I've spent some time on the se-technology forum,
so I know the difference between a "proper" WIG and a UH-18spw.

2 Congratulations on your achievements with WIG crafts.

3 The .org domain is supposed to be restricted for non-profit
organizations.  You might want to find a different domain name.

4 If you had a 300 hp wig of modest size and it didn't take off, then
you have something wrong with your lifting body.  In effect, what you
have here is a 300 hp boat with some extra drag.  Those surfaces can
hold you to the water as easily as they can hold you above it.

5  While I agree with you in that power does not guarantee flight, I
will say that thrust does.  At some point, given enough thrust, the
vehicle can go straight up without benefit of a lifting body at all.
Any rocket is proof of this.  I don't want to go there, it's just an
extreme example to prove a point.

I happen to be friends with the owners and know the employees of the
Universal Hovercraft company ( http://www.hovercraft.com
), which is
why I know as much as I do about the WIG at the end of the UH video.
I go to their houses, go hovering with them, and I'm helping them move
their shop.

Getting back to the main objective here, there are a lot of folks who
want to buy their toys.  I'm not one of them.  If I can't build it,
I'm really not that interested.  Goes for hovercrafts, aircraft,
boats, whatever.
 




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What do you make of this?
Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-17 09:39:24 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-17 11:43:59 
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"Sonerai" <r  2008-03-17 17:02:21 
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Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-17 12:38:56 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-17 12:48:46 
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hovermn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-17 13:55:08 
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Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-17 15:08:35 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-20 08:25:15 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-20 08:30:42 
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"Sonerai" <r  2008-03-20 10:25:46 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-20 09:31:36 
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Ground Effect <pingfan  2008-03-21 10:10:08 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-24 07:59:45 
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Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-24 08:30:37 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-24 08:53:47 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-24 13:53:33 
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Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-24 19:30:11 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-25 07:24:29 
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Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-25 08:35:25 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-25 09:37:14 
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Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-25 15:59:49 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-26 08:56:48 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-26 09:05:14 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-26 09:38:26 
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Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-26 09:44:21 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-26 11:52:44 
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Buy_Sell <werkspace@[E  2008-03-26 13:34:29 
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Ken Roberts <forums@[E  2008-03-26 14:24:05 
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