"Bruce in Bangkok" <b*paige*125@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> I absolutely have evidence that a dismasting will cause a capsize in
>>> heavy
>>> seas. Pulling a boat over is quite, quite different than being on the
>>> ocean
>>> in heavy seas. Is there some evidence you would like to present that
>>> shows
>>> this isn't true? Have you ever been in a boat rolling from side to
side
>>> in
>>> ocean conditions? I have.-
>>
>>
>>Jim
>
> Are you stating specifically that a sailing boat that loses its mast
> is in more danger of capsizing then when the rig was in place?? I
> would appreciate it if you could elaborate on this as it was always my
> understanding that once the rig was either cut away or retrieved and
> lashed on deck the boat rode no worse then it had with the rig in
> place.
>
> It was always my thought that once the rig was gone that stability of
> the ballasted hull would become slightly better with no weight above
> the deck line.
>
> I emphasize that I have no interest in this discussion other then this
> single point which is probably of interest to most cruising sailors.
>
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)
If it was bare poles, then no as far as absolute stability goes, but in
storm conditions, the generally accepted best method of survival is to
heave
to, rather than lying ahull. This implies some sail up. Thus, some ability
to sail and greater stability while doing so. Even running before the
storm,
you might be able to do that with bare poles, but I don't think you could
do
it dismasted. You need something up to heave-to.
Despite Jim's rather bizarre assumptions about survivability in a Mac in
heavy seas, the discussion did get me thinking about rigging. Seems to me
it
would not make the boat more stable than under bare poles due to weight
aloft and no sails for stability, but the rigging would resist or at least
dampen a 360 roll... probably just one time around.
If what I wrote was interpreted to imply that one would simply have bare
poles vs. being dismasted (as thought that would be much of a choice), it
was not my intention - I suppose Jim will be bitter, sorry for the
political
pun -- I was always thinking that if I can put any kind of sail up,
that'll
be an advantage, which is why they make storm sails.... heaving to, making
some progress vs. being at the mercy of whatever comes your way.
All this said, I can't imagine someone purposefully dismasting to improve
stability. Wow... great idea... a collapsible mast that you could just
fold
up and stow. I think this would be perfect for the Mac enthusiast who
wants
to go offshore. LOL
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"j" ganz @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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