"Bruce in Bangkok" <b*paige*125@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:07:00 -0700, "Capt. JG" <jganz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>>"Jere Lull" <jerelull@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:2008041519282516807-jerelull@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On 2008-04-15 08:20:21 -0400, Brian Whatcott <betwys1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:55:37 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
>>>> <b*paige*125@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Are you stating specifically that a sailing boat that loses its mast
>>>>> is in more danger of capsizing then when the rig was in place?? I
>>>>> would appreciate it if you could elaborate on this as it was always
my
>>>>> understanding that once the rig was either cut away or retrieved and
>>>>> lashed on deck the boat rode no worse then it had with the rig in
>>>>> place.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was always my thought that once the rig was gone that stability
of
>>>>> the ballasted hull would become slightly better with no weight above
>>>>> the deck line.
>>>>>
>>>>> I emphasize that I have no interest in this discussion other then
this
>>>>> single point which is probably of interest to most cruising sailors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce-in-Bangkok
>>>>> (correct email address for reply)
>>>>
>>>> There are conflicting factors (as usual): the pro-stability factor is
>>>> the considerable mass far from the roll center (called moment of
>>>> iniertia) which slows the rate of roll in adverse seas.
>>>> The con-stab factor is the increased windage and weight above the
>>>> water line.
>>>>
>>>> Brian W
>>>
>>> As I read this thread, the mast *might* slow wave-induced roll enough
to
>>> prevent a roll-over. Anyone who's taken their boat out without a mast
up
>>> can attest that the boat is a lot less "stable".
>>>
>>> But such waves don't come without wind trying to roll the boat all on
>>> its
>>> own.
>>>
>>> I can only believe that having the mast and remains of sails "up" once
>>> the
>>> boat is inverted would be a distinct disadvantage to coming back up in
a
>>> timely manner. Dinghy sailors know how much drag a little bit of cloth
>>> can
>>> create.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jere Lull
>>> Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
>>> Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
>>> Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/
>>>
>>
>>
>>Likely true. For catamarans, if inverted, they're more stable upside
down.
>>Of course, this comment might open up a religious war about which one is
>>better offshore. :-)
>
> Being a bit bored this afternoon - the glue is hardening. My car is
> broke and I don't have anything pending for an hour or I'd like to
> forward the proposition that Catamarans are the safest type of vessel
> to sail. Think about it for a moment.
>
> 1. They are stable in either the upright or inverted position
>
> 2. Modern Cats have a hatch in the bottom of the hull so it doesn't
> make any difference which side up you are you can get in and out.
>
> 3. If inverted the strongest part of the boat - the hull - is the
> ****tion exposed to the waves.
>
> 4. The rig is pretty simple with only one shroud a side and a head
> stay.
>
> 5. Cats don't rock so bad so you don't need a gimbel stove, and your
> significant other seldom barfs in the mashed potatoes.
>
> 6. Cats have big windows so you don't need so many lights.
>
> 7. Cats have two separate bedrooms so when you really have a bruhaha
> with She Who Must be Obeyed you can go off to the other hull to lick
> your wounds.
>
> 8. Cats usually have a BIG cockpit which allows you to sit out in the
> summer's breezes in the evening and enjoy a cool beverage. It also
> allows you to feed the mosquitoes but what the Ha, mosquitoes got to
> live too. Living in tune with nature. That's the ticket. Participating
> in the Malaria Fever Research Project if also a worthy undertaking.
>
> No, there is no question but what Catamarans are safe, congenial and
> in tune with nature. The only way the thinking man will sail.
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)
Hard for me to disagree... probably the only major negatives are stowage
and
cost, the former of which you have to watch or it'll get out of control
and
really slow down the boat. Crew fatigue is a *big* factor for
long-distance.
I saw a cat that had screens up around the cockpit, so screw the
mosquitos.
When we charter in various locations, we always rent a catamaran... makes
for a much pleasant vacation.
Disclaimer: I own a mono. :-)
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