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Re: The High Cost of Cruising

by "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubbard@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 26, 2008 at 11:32 AM

"Herodotus" <peter.hendra@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:df0764l1n4ruar421004cgkll660dns1km@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:26:50 -0400, "Roger Long"
> <Strider@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>"Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>
>>> Knowing better of  course, I could still not let the "blue water 
>>> outboard"
>>>pass without comment.
>>>
>>
>>Nor should the idea of a "blue water" Coronado 27 pass without comment,
>>welcome though the unintended humor may be in these unnerving times.
>>
>>People have certainly made blue water voyages, even cir***navigations,
in
>>less but my E 32 is twice the boat and I would not consider her a "blue
>>water cruiser", despite windvane and extended tankage.  That doesn't
mean 
>>I
>>wouldn't undertake a passage to Bermuda or a transatlantic in the safest
>>part of the year but I wouldn't push my luck by making a habit of it.
>>
>>A "blue water" cruiser is one designed, built, and outfitted primarily
for
>>passages and long cruises.  More im****tantly, it is one that actually
does
>>these things.
>
> Roger,
> That definition of a "Blue water Cruiser" is dependent upon an
> individual's viewpoint. I have met many boats that would not meet your
> criteria including several barebones Wharram cats that I would
> consider grossly inadequate for my own needs. However, to their long
> time owners and crusiers they are considered ideal for crossing
> oceans. Quite a lot of what are advertised in boating magazines as
> "blue water cruisers" are not, regardless of their size and how many
> people have bought them to go "blue water cruising" Jenneaus, Oceans
> and Benetaus are only a few of them. They are certainly not made for
> out of sight of land crusing though doubtless some are taken there.
>
> Each owner has a different set of criteria. Your friend Wilbur for
> example, extols the virtues of a simple wooden bucket. The texbooks
> say that twin or bilge keel boats are not good cruisers. The cruiser
> who has one would extol the virtues of shallow draft and being able to
> anchor close in and dry out level.
>
> Provided the vessel is sound and seaworthy and the sailor has
> knowledge of his boat and its behaviour in all sea conditions, the
> main component of a "blue water cruiser" is the sailor him/herself.
>
> Neither Bligh nor Shackleton captained the ideal "blue water cruiser'
> though I dare say they would have prefered one such.
>
> Peter

Well said. The boat and the crew work as a team. Even the best of boats 
skippered by an inept crew hardly stands a chance of making a successful 
blue water voyage. On the other hand, even a marginal boat, well-fitted
out 
and modified to eliminate potential weaknesses and crewed by an
experienced 
expert such as myself who knows the boat inside and out and can and does 
handle all the maintenance has a near 100% chance of a successful ocean 
voyage.

Capt. Neal's blue water Coronado 27 did not start life as a blue water 
designed vessel. She was sold as a coastal cruiser. This designation was 
more due to the limits of tankage, storage, interior layout etc. than her 
ability to withstand the rigors of ocean voyaging. The good captain went
to 
work to shore up the few weaknesses the Coronado 27 was produced with. He 
re-designed the interior to make it more practical for voyaging. He has 
installed 1/4" Lexan on the inside of the deadlights in lieu of outside 
storm boards. He added flotation foam between the liner and the hull where

there were voids. He poured a block of flotation foam just forward of the 
transom to seal and sup****t the rudder post tube. He claims his blue water

Coronado has positive flotation and will not sink but settle on an even
keel 
to about the rubbing strake if seriously holed. But, even the eventuality
of 
being seriously holed is greatly lessened by virtue of the flotation foam 
poured into all the voids.

He has replaced all the standing rigging and terminals are all Sta-Loks. 
Running rigging is kept in tip-top shape. The boom has been internally 
reinforced. Sails are plentiful and new and hanked-on in the fore
triangle. 
He even ****ps storm try and storm jib. His philosophy has always been, 
"first she's a sailboat" and everything he has done to modify her and 
improve her weaknesses was done with this in mind. He claims he is safer
in 
his blue water Coronado than in any other boat except for an Etap of
similar 
size due the Etap also having positive foam flotation built in. The good 
captain has always claimed it's just plain stupid to go to sea in a boat 
that is sinkable when holed (like the erstwhile "Red Cloud") when
unsinkable 
vessels are being mass produced or when you can modify your existing
vessel 
to also be unsinkable due to a hole or holes in the hull. The old
gentleman 
is entirely correct.

The world famous Master Mariner himself told me that a small 
outboard-powered sailboat is the only way to go and I believe him. It
makes 
sense. Small, light, fuel efficient engine, economical to purchase,
maintain 
and operate. Easy to remove and stow when crossing oceans. After all, an 
auxiliary is supposed to be just that. Anybody who goes around with a
huge, 
heavy, built in diesel and a 100 gallon tank so he can attempt to motor 
across oceans is an idiot and no sailor. He should have bought a long
range 
trawler like the former sailor Doug King.

One of the virtues of a 27-footer is she is handy and easily driven. Even
a 
two knot wind is enough to sail her just about anywhere and she can be 
anchored under sail and gotten underway under sail. The only rationale for

even an outboard is maneuvering in close quarter situations where there is

no wind or less wind than current. In all other cases, learn to sail but 
that takes a handy small vessel in order for a single-hander to be
entirely 
successful.

It is a well-known fact that inboard diesels get you into trouble more
than 
they get you out of trouble. That's a fact of life and you'd best accept
it. 
Even if you didn't have to live with the smell of the beast which
permeates 
every diesel boat I've ever stepped aboard it would still be folly to 
embrace them like today's so-called sailor has. They make you lazy, they 
turn you into a motorhead moron. They harm your health. Breathing the 
exhaust is carcinogenic.

So, to sum up, Captain Neal's Coronado is, indeed, a blue water voyager
for 
two clear reasons.

1) She has completed many a blue water voyage and weathered severe storms 
and has never been compromised or beaten back.

2) She has a qualified, experienced, intelligent, handsome captain who
knows 
her inside and out and has fitted her out for blue water voyaging.

Wilbur Hubbard
 




 2 Posts in Topic:
Re: The High Cost of Cruising
"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-06-26 11:32:20 
Re: The High Cost of Cruising
"Edgar" <ejc  2008-06-26 19:16:24 

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