"Skip Gundlach" <SkipGundlach@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:9f017eca-cbd3-4092-97fe-6a99f9ed13fc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi, Y'all,
>
> On May 6, 7:07 am, Wayne.B <waynebatrecdotbo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 17:32:30 -0700 (PDT), Skip Gundlach
>>
>> <SkipGundl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >So, it was a dark and stormy night, as the saying goes, and Lydia
>> >wasn't feeling all that well, what with the rock and roll,
>> >pitching and the like.
>>
>> OK, so why were you out there? What was your bailout exit if
>> conditions deteriorated? Why didn't you use it?
>
> We were out there because we were on the way from here to there, so to
> speak. The boat was doing just fine, and was in no discomfort (the
> boat, that is, nor me, for that matter).
>
> There were several bailout exits observed, planned and possible - but
> not needed.
>
>>
>> You guys are retired. Learn to take your time and wait for favorable
>> weather conditions. Learn to avoid running dead down wind in lumpy
>> conditions. It's a miserable point of sail. Reach up enough that you
>> can sail effectively with no risk of an accidental jibe. You'll go
>> faster, with more comfort, using less fuel, and with much less chance
>> of breaking things.
>
> Believe it or not, the weather as described was favorable, compared to
> that which was forecast for a long time forward, or as had been the
> case relatively recently. We didn't need to go faster - slower, in
> fact, as commented upon later in the post. To get to the point of
> sail which would have guaranteed no possibility of an accidental jibe
> would have put us either in the Bahamas or ashore (well, aground comes
> to mind, as well), as the waves were such that we'd have had to turn
> very substantially to minimize the roll/fishtailing, and far enough to
> avoid the resultant jibe.
>
> In any event, were it not for the unexpected failure of the bail, it
> would have been an entirely uneventful (well, events being defined as
> troublesome) trip. Better it should happen then, so we could get it
> fixed when we went ashore (and as I write in "real time" vs the past
> you see in the post, it has been repaired and awaits reinstallation),
> rather than have to deal with the adaptation I made for our later
> sailing locally, for the entire passage to Maine. That said, I have
> no doubt that there will be something, or several somethings which
> will require ingenuity and adaptation to allow comfortable
> continuation of our journey this summer.
>
> Onward:
>
> On May 6, 12:39 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>> "Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotbo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>
>> Skippy has ten thousand dollars worth of extraneous electronic systems
>> yet
>> he has not bothered to spend a few bucks rigging a preventer? Just
shows
>> how
>> he's just a clueless noob blundering along until disaster strikes.
>>
>> Wilbur Hubbard
>
> O limitlessly wise one, I await your description of your infinitely
> experienced modus which will make a preventer when the boom is
> directly fore-and-aft - one which is more likely to prevent sideways
> movement than the 6-purchase mainsheet, centrally traveled and pulled
> very tight - which will know which way the ****ft will come, as put on
> the wrong side, it would, of course, be useless, when the bail holding
> the mainsheet fails.
>
> Obviously you no longer read my posts, instead waiting for others on
> which to potshot, or you'd have seen that not only do I have and use a
> preventer, the preventer was attached to the same bail which failed,
> after it tore out a different fitting to which it had originally been
> attached, thus rendering it, should I have rigged it to the bail,
> useless.
>
> You'd also have taken the most recent silver-platter op****tunity I
> presented very much earlier in response to your denigration of Doug
> King, providing you with not only base and abject failure but the
> links to pictures to prove it. I'm not going to continue to deliver
> these brilliant targets if you don't shoot at them :{))
Running downwind with your mainsail tightly sheeted amid****ps??? Oh my
gawd,
it's worse than I thought! What a dope you are Skippy!
Learn how to sail! Put up a spin****r and get the mainsail down on the
boom
when running directly downwind. IDIOT! You need your vessel to be pulled
by
the stem. It will be much easier to steer that way. A sheeted in mainsail
does nothing but destabilize the situation while making smacking noises
with
every roll and roll most vessels do when running. Duh!
As for a proper preventer - do not run it to the mainsheet bail. That's
stupid and ineffective. Can you say redundant systems? The preventer
should
have it's own bale or padeye. And it need not be at the end of the boom.
The
center of the boom will work just fine. And a proper preventer can be
rigged
to keep the boom from going either direction even if it is centered. Mine
does. All it took was some doublebraid line, a padeye on the boom, a
couple
of blocks on the lower shroud chainplates and a couple clam cleats on the
coachroof.
Get with it, Boy!
Wilbur Hubbard.
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