Capt. JG wrote:
> "Alan Gomes" <xxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:4820a18d$0$31763$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Capt. JG wrote:
>>> <salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:0s0124lq05ueo5mul86bt26dbkgb4mltn1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On 6 May 2008 11:10:01 -0500, Dave <Dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 06 May 2008 10:57:59 -0400, salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Sail Cradle (variation on lazy jacks) worked like a charm, and
she
>>>>>> marveled at what a help it will be when I'm single handing, or we
have
>>>>>> to strike the main in rough conditions.
>>>>> Just curious why you chose lazy jacks over the Dutchman system.
Older
>>>>> sail?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave T.
>>>> What I have is a bit different from traditional lazy jacks. Self
>>>> adjusting, no modifications to the sail or the sail cover, stores
>>>> alongside the mast except when being used, no marking of the sails or
>>>> chafing issues. I've seen the Dutchman system on a few boats, and it
>>>> just didn't impress me. Some people like it, but I'm just not one of
>>>> them. My main is a fairly new Kappa. The two upper battens are full,
>>>> but the two lowers are partials. That isn't especially desirable for
>>>> use with the Dutchman system either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's a very individual thing dealing with stowing/deploying sails. I
find
>>> the Dutchman works great, but I always have the impression that the
main
>>> won't flake properly, even though it does. I got sick of the lazy jack
>>> system on a big cat with full battens, mainly because the battens had
a
>>> tendency to catch, but for less than full battens, I'm sure they would
>>> work fine. I know they make lazy jack systems that move the lines out
of
>>> the way when you raise the sail, but it seemed like yet more stuff to
>>> have attached, and I like the clean lines of the Dutchman. One of my
>>> constant concerns is someone will damage/break one of the fi****ng
>>> line-like runs.. not that it would affect raising or lowering the
sail. I
>>> just don't want to have to replace them. The Dutchman certainly isn't
a
>>> panacea for all issues raising/lowering/flaking sails. One of the best
>>> things I like about them is that they'll work significantly off the
wind.
>>> If I had full battens, I know the lazy jacks wouldn't work.
>>>
>>>
>> I have a full battened main and use lazy jacks. I keep them stowed at
the
>> mast when I'm raising the sail and under sail and only deploy them
before
>> I drop the sail. (IOW, they just stay stowed at the mast except when
I'm
>> actually dropping the sail, and remain deployed for the short time it
>> takes me to get back to the dock, at which point I stow them back at
the
>> mast for next time. It never catches when dropping the sail so I've not
>> had a problem with them.
>>
>> --Alan Gomes
>
>
> Can't imagine they would catch the battens coming down. Our problem was
> catching the battens going up.
>
>
Precisely. I often read of people who complain about the battens hanging
when raising the sail. But that's why I installed mine so I could pull
them to the mast, just because of the problem you have mentioned. I only
deploy them for dropping the sail, which is when I need them anyway. I
guess the issue with some setups is that they cannot be pulled forward
to the mast and kept out of the way; they just stay up all the time.
--AG
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