Re: Great sail on Saturday

"Alan Gomes" <xxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Capt. JG wrote:
>> "Alan Gomes" <xxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Capt. JG wrote:
>>>> "Alan Gomes" <xxx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> Can't imagine they would catch the battens coming down. Our problem

>>>>>> was catching the battens going up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Precisely. I often read of people who complain about the battens 
>>>>> hanging when raising the sail. But that's why I installed mine so I 
>>>>> could pull them to the mast, just because of the problem you have 
>>>>> mentioned. I only deploy them for dropping the sail, which is when I

>>>>> need them anyway. I guess the issue with some setups is that they 
>>>>> cannot be pulled forward to the mast and kept out of the way; they 
>>>>> just stay up all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> --AG
>>>> Ah... ok. Made me nervous. LOL This is the reason why I chose the
other 
>>>> system... yet more stuff to do. Do you have help or do you single
hand?
>>>>
>>> I usually single hand. Sometimes even with non-sailing guests it
amounts 
>>> to the same thing. :-)
>>>
>>> It is true that I have to go to the mast to release the jacks before 
>>> dropping the sail. Takes less than 30 seconds. But it really does help

>>> with flaking the sail, and actually keeps it secure enough so I could 
>>> dispense with sail ties until I get into the dock. But typically I put

>>> on a few ties to hold it and then pretty it up when I'm back at the 
>>> dock, before I put on the sail cover. So while not perfect it is 
>>> definitely a net positive.
>>>
>>> Alan Gomes
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I pretty much do the same thing with the dutchman. I pop the 
>> halyard, give a couple of tugs to get the mail all the way down, then
one 
>> tie with the halyard captured underneath it. On the way back to the 
>> cockpit, I flip the clew end of the main onto the boom, and it pretty 
>> much stays. If the wind is really up, then I'll put another tie on near

>> the leach.
>>
>>
> Though I've never used it the Dutchman sounds like a really nice system.

> What do they cost? I was able to install my own lazy jacks quite 
> inexpensively and it was easy to do.
>
> Alan Gomes


The biggest issue is getting the holes made in your sail, which needs to
be 
done by a sailmaker familiar with the system (pretty easy to find). As I 
recall, it was about twice what a LJ system would cost if you bought it, 
including the sail modificiation. Unlike the LJ system, this would have to

be done every time you switch mains. The first question I asked Quantum
(who 
did the mods) was, "Is it worth it for my main?" This was sort of a loaded

question, since they're in the business of selling sails. One of the 
sales/tech guys took a look and said it was worth it, given the good 
condition of the main.

Here's a promo video... http://www.mvbinfo.com/dp_03_SF_brochure.html

Here's an article on sailnet: 
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance-articles/19897-lazy-jack-dutchman-system.html

Here's a pro/con by the Dutchman maker: 
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance-articles/19948-dutchman-vs-lazy-jacks-pros-cons.html

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