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Re: Miami to BVI

by jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 07:03 PM

Jere Lull wrote:
....
> Sorry to directly disagree, but I been there, done that, and know both 
> areas intimately.
> 
> LI gets more storms and hurricanes than the BVI or any other single 
> "Caribbean" island group ("quotes" allow for including the Bahamas and 
> Bermuda, which aren't in the Caribbean.)

This seems very doubtful indeed if you're just counting hurricanes and 
tropical storms. Lets look at the data:

Since 1851, New York has had 12 strikes from hurricanes, 6 cat 1, 1 cat 
2, 5 cat 3, and nothing stronger.

http://www.stormfax.com/hurstate.htm

How about the Carribean:
For the same period, Virgin Gorda had 28 hurricanes, of which 4 of the 
were cat 4, stronger than any that hit NY.  The Bahamas faired worse, 
with 40 hurricanes.  In fact, most of the Carribean/Bahamas (and even 
Bermuda) has more hurricanes than any place in the US Northeast.

(It is true that the Carribean strikes are measured a bit different, but 
since the NY coast is about 120 miles this seems like a fair comparison.)

http://www.stormcarib.com/climatology/freq.htm
which is extracted from:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/NWS-TPC-5.pdf

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/deadly/index.html
> 
> As a BVI "expert" for more than a decade, I get many re****ts. To date, I

> have fielded exactly one 'cane experience in the BVI, and their 
> experience was that they were "forced" into a hurricane hole for one 
> day. They listened to the local forecasts, chose that day to shop 
> onshore, and were paid to enjoy the experience. They cared not that they

> had to wear their foulies as they walked around.

Their memory is rather short, since the BVI had a number of serious hits 
in the late '80s and '90s.  Of course, that's the problem with being an 
"expert" for the last ten years; the major storms average every 15 years 
or so.

> 
> A typical Chesapeake squall line is more "interesting" than their 
> experience. Chesapeake squall lines are a wake-up call for world 
> cruisers who have been through 'canes or brushed by them. We often 
> experience 110+ knot winds for an hour or more. A fairly recent one put 
> 28 boats on a local anchorage's beaches.

I certainly wouldn't deny that thunderstorm squalls can be very intense, 
but I seriously doubt they sustain 110+ knots for over an hour, and that 
this happens "often."   I've tried to find any record of extreme squalls 
and in fact only one re****ting station on the Chesapeake re****ted record 
  gusts of over 100 mph.

I have no doubt that "hurricane force gusts" occur somewhere in the Bay 
several times a year, but that's not the same 110+ knots sustained for 
over an hour.
 




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Miami to BVI
BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 05:46:28 
Re: Miami to BVI
Geoff Schultz <geoff&q  2008-05-05 11:32:22 
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Geoff Schultz <geoff&q  2008-05-05 11:39:24 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-05 13:11:28 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 11:13:56 
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"Gregory Hall"   2008-05-05 14:18:12 
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Jere Lull <jerelull@[E  2008-05-06 11:31:50 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-06 07:44:47 
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salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-06 11:09:45 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-06 22:46:46 
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salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 06:26:32 
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Jere Lull <jerelull@[E  2008-05-08 02:21:52 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-08 00:38:33 
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jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 19:03:21 
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Marty <baxterm@[EMAIL   2008-05-08 19:58:35 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-08 23:30:25 
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Jere Lull <jerelull@[E  2008-05-09 06:16:51 
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Geoff Schultz <geoff&q  2008-05-05 14:03:33 
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Geoff Schultz <geoff&q  2008-05-05 14:04:50 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 11:21:58 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-05 14:36:06 
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"Don White" <  2008-05-05 17:10:07 
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Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 12:09:15 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-05 15:49:30 
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Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 13:28:31 
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Peter <ndaoway@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 13:50:24 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-05 17:06:54 
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Geoff Schultz <geoff&q  2008-05-05 16:31:29 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-05 18:15:58 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 14:48:28 
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"Gregory Hall"   2008-05-05 18:01:39 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 14:51:54 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-05 18:07:24 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 14:56:01 
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"Capt. JG" <  2008-05-05 15:10:53 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-06 07:17:13 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 15:00:48 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-05 18:31:23 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 15:01:45 
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"Don White" <  2008-05-05 22:21:30 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 15:09:52 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 15:10:55 
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BeeRich <beerich@[EMAI  2008-05-05 15:13:57 
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"Capt. JG" <  2008-05-05 19:09:37 
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Peter <ndaoway@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 18:42:42 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-06 12:36:24 
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Peter <ndaoway@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 18:46:35 
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Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 07:18:09 
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"Glenn Ashmore"  2008-05-07 08:43:39 
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PrefersOffshore <twill  2008-05-10 19:27:33 

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