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Re: March 7th - Making Bail, Equipment Failure and other fish stories

by Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 10, 2008 at 09:08 PM

On May 10, 7:36=A0pm, Gordon <gaz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Hi Gordon:

Are you LDS?

But back to fish.........

> =A0 Actually, there use to be bounty on the critters and whether or not
> you collected the bounty, it was always open season. In fact it still is
> in the open sea.

What ya mean by "open sea" I know the Marine Mamal Protection Act
covers out to the FCZ or whats called the EEZ now basically 200 mile
out..

But are yo saying the high seas ...? Hum I thing the International
Whalling Commission (IWC) may have some opinion on that. but not
shure.


> =A0 =A0When they became protected,

That would be 1972 for the MMPA

the numbers shot up to where there is no
> longer enough food to go around and the critters are going up rivers
> such as the Lewis where they have never been seen before.

Well Im not sure bout the never been b4. Maybe since the white man
been around....


> =A0 =A0They are also destroying the herring runs in Puget Sound. Adult,
> spawner herring gather in certain areas before spawning and the
> pinnepeds are devastating them.

Yup sorta like the Pollock A season in the Berring, since you were on
the council ya remember the big deal about roe stripping in the 80s
and early 90s? Looks like seals wernt the only ones gorging and
ripping out hte bellies n just letting the rest of the fish float off.
Humm now who would do a thing like that?


>  Course, less herring, less salmon.
> =A0 Less salmon, even hungrier pinnipeds.
> =A0 Believe it or not, in lower Puget Sound, the majority of their food
> intake is sculpins.

Cottidae ya mean bull heads???  i use to catch and sell bullheads to
the UnderSeas gardens for 5 cents each. made enough to buy a burger
basket and have five bucks in my pocket at the end of a saturday on a
nickle bullhead.


> =A0 It's kinda like the reintroduction of wolves. All of a sudden they
are=

> everywhere.

Yes, and the problme is that we have ****ed up the habitat so much
they tend to adapt as do many top prdetors do.



Wyoming now has an unrestricted hunt for em. Need the same
> for the pinnepeds, at least to make the numbers manageable.

Thats  your opinion. I suggest doing thoes things that would increas
the salmon runs so the piniped predation is not a problme. but that
would mean telling the Klamath potato farmers, ranchers, home
builders, Pendelton wheat famers (Gordon Smilt R, OR) cattle ranchers,
Tidewater/Foss Tug, Umitilla nation, BPA, Enron/PGE, sprots anglers
and commercial fishers... etc that their gonna have to stop ****ing
with my river.

You can squeeze only so much from somthing before it runs dry.


> =A0 The one bright light is that it is inevitable that disease will hit
an=
d
> wipe out the weakest.

Yup ever so many years Leptospirosis will kick in and will get a dye-
off.

> =A0 =A0Yeah, I use to be on the Pacific Fisheries Council and have
studied=

> all the background material.

good. I think it is very im****tant to get politically active.
What was your background that got you involved??

> =A0 I also know its hard to go up against pictures of cuddly white seal
> pups being clubbed for their fur.

Agreed there...........


but i could care less if they are eating salmon. If there were enoough
salnom sealoins would not be an issue.

too bad the commercial salmon season is closed a ga i n ,

would you rather have a cheep burger or a salmon season ???


> =A0 Course, as far as salmon go, the nylon curtains are tough to get by
al=
so.

dont even get me started on gill net.............. highseas or in the
COLUMBIA ! there are a ***** to dodge too!

Although I saw a few river gilnetters were lost last week too. No
mater our politics they still worked the river and are mariners by
definition.

Bob
 




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March 7th - Making Bail, Equipment Failure and other fish storie
Skip Gundlach <SkipGun  2008-05-04 17:32:30 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-06 07:07:32 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-06 12:39:21 
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Skip Gundlach <SkipGun  2008-05-06 14:30:51 
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"Wilbur Hubbard"  2008-05-06 18:10:45 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-06 22:37:22 
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Paul Cassel <pcasselre  2008-05-06 17:19:19 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-06 22:30:54 
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Paul Cassel <pcasselre  2008-05-07 19:14:31 
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"Thomas, Spring Poin  2008-05-08 11:36:01 
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Wayne.B <waynebatrecdo  2008-05-08 23:28:33 
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Claus Frørup <Claus@[E  2008-05-09 22:09:05 
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Jere Lull <jerelull@[E  2008-05-14 01:40:55 
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Claus Frørup <Claus@[E  2008-05-14 22:39:18 
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Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 17:35:57 
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Wilbur Hubbard <wilbur  2008-05-10 12:29:16 
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Claus Frørup <Claus@[E  2008-05-10 09:10:27 
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Gordon <gazuum@[EMAIL   2008-05-10 08:09:20 
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Claus Frørup <Claus@[E  2008-05-11 10:25:16 
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"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-10 06:50:08 
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"Don White" <  2008-05-10 11:45:24 
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dougking888@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-10 09:30:53 
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richardcasady@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-10 18:19:35 
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Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 10:13:17 
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richardcasady@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-10 18:21:33 
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Claus Frørup <Claus@[E  2008-05-11 10:37:34 
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Bruce in Bangkok <decy  2008-05-11 17:19:39 
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Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 20:04:21 
Re: March 7th - Making Bail, Equipment Failure and other fish st
Gordon <gazuum@[EMAIL   2008-05-10 20:36:51 
Re: March 7th - Making Bail, Equipment Failure and other fish st
Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 21:08:27 
Re: March 7th - Making Bail, Equipment Failure and other fish st
Gordon <gazuum@[EMAIL   2008-05-10 22:04:14 

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