Bob wrote:
> On May 10, 7:36 pm, Gordon <gaz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> Hi Gordon:
>
> Are you LDS?
No, no wives.
>
> But back to fish.........
>
>> Actually, there use to be bounty on the critters and whether or not
>> you collected the bounty, it was always open season. In fact it still
is
>> in the open sea.
>
> What ya mean by "open sea" I know the Marine Mamal Protection Act
> covers out to the FCZ or whats called the EEZ now basically 200 mile
> out..
>
> But are yo saying the high seas ...? Hum I thing the International
> Whalling Commission (IWC) may have some opinion on that. but not
> shure.
>
What I meant was all the commercial fishers I know carry and use
rifles when out of sight of seal huggers. When a king salmon is worth a
hundred bucks and a seal is trying to make off with it, so long seal.
>
>> When they became protected,
>
> That would be 1972 for the MMPA
>
> the numbers shot up to where there is no
>> longer enough food to go around and the critters are going up rivers
>> such as the Lewis where they have never been seen before.
>
> Well Im not sure bout the never been b4. Maybe since the white man
> been around....
>
>
>> They are also destroying the herring runs in Puget Sound. Adult,
>> spawner herring gather in certain areas before spawning and the
>> pinnepeds are devastating them.
>
> Yup sorta like the Pollock A season in the Berring, since you were on
> the council ya remember the big deal about roe stripping in the 80s
> and early 90s? Looks like seals wernt the only ones gorging and
> ripping out hte bellies n just letting the rest of the fish float off.
> Humm now who would do a thing like that?
>
>
>> Course, less herring, less salmon.
>> Less salmon, even hungrier pinnipeds.
>> Believe it or not, in lower Puget Sound, the majority of their food
>> intake is sculpins.
>
> Cottidae ya mean bull heads??? i use to catch and sell bullheads to
> the UnderSeas gardens for 5 cents each. made enough to buy a burger
> basket and have five bucks in my pocket at the end of a saturday on a
> nickle bullhead.
>
Yep, bullheads. They've eaten everything else.
>
>> It's kinda like the reintroduction of wolves. All of a sudden they
are
>> everywhere.
>
> Yes, and the problme is that we have ****ed up the habitat so much
> they tend to adapt as do many top prdetors do.
>
>
>
> Wyoming now has an unrestricted hunt for em. Need the same
>> for the pinnepeds, at least to make the numbers manageable.
>
> Thats your opinion. I suggest doing thoes things that would increas
> the salmon runs so the piniped predation is not a problme. but that
> would mean telling the Klamath potato farmers, ranchers, home
> builders, Pendelton wheat famers (Gordon Smilt R, OR) cattle ranchers,
> Tidewater/Foss Tug, Umitilla nation, BPA, Enron/PGE, sprots anglers
> and commercial fishers... etc that their gonna have to stop ****ing
> with my river.
>
> You can squeeze only so much from somthing before it runs dry.
>
>
>> The one bright light is that it is inevitable that disease will hit
and
>> wipe out the weakest.
>
> Yup ever so many years Leptospirosis will kick in and will get a dye-
> off.
>
>> Yeah, I use to be on the Pacific Fisheries Council and have studied
>> all the background material.
>
> good. I think it is very im****tant to get politically active.
> What was your background that got you involved??
>
>> I also know its hard to go up against pictures of cuddly white seal
>> pups being clubbed for their fur.
>
> Agreed there...........
>
>
> but i could care less if they are eating salmon. If there were enoough
> salnom sealoins would not be an issue.
>
> too bad the commercial salmon season is closed a ga i n ,
>
> would you rather have a cheep burger or a salmon season ???
>
>
>> Course, as far as salmon go, the nylon curtains are tough to get by
also.
>
> dont even get me started on gill net.............. highseas or in the
> COLUMBIA ! there are a ***** to dodge too!
>
> Although I saw a few river gilnetters were lost last week too. No
> mater our politics they still worked the river and are mariners by
> definition.
>
> Bob
>
Ain't no easy answers.
Gordon


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2008-05-11 17:19:39 |
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2008-05-10 22:04:14 |
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