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Re: Flare replacement

by jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 09:20 AM

Vic Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 06:59:03 -0400, jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> Bob wrote:
>>> On May 13, 6:08 pm, "mosquitof...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <mosquitof...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Funny..I was just looking at one of the three kits that I have on
>>>> board this evening...it said right in the package..save the expired
>>>> flares as back up...that is what I do
>>>> Tom
>>>
>>> HI Tom,
>>> How true..... and Ill still hold to my belife if Im going to have 9
>>> flares on board I want them ALL to be in-date and the "best' a
>>> civilian can have. WHy have 6 in-date flres and 3 out of date. Why not
>>> simply have 9 in-date flares????
>> ...
>>> Why would anyone have out of date/old stuff for "emergency back-up?"
>>> But some people hate to wear helmets on motorcycles..... their choice
>>> not mine
>> Silly argument.  Why would you only have 9 in-date flares? Why not 18? 
>> Why not 36?  Does a flare that is perfectly good after 36 months 
>> suddenly become dangerous a week later?  Do you want your epitaph to be

>> "If only he had one more flare"?
> 
> Say you want 36 flares - for safety's sake.
> You pick what's reasonable
> Start with 18 new and 18 just expired.
> A year before the "new" expire the old are 2 years past expired.
> How many good flares do you have?
> Now understand I don't know squat about flares or why they expire, or
> how reliable they are past expiration.
> Or what they cost.
> But if I'm relying on something, there should be some expectations.
> An alternative epitaph could be:
> Half the damn flares were duds.
> Here I lie under the suds.

The problem is that no one knows how many flares will be enough.  The 
law says one thing, prudence and cir***stances say another, and the 
pocketbook may say something different.  Whatever number you pick as the 
"appropriate" could end up being one short!  Why throw away one that 
could be the one that saves you?  Remember, nothing says the "new" flare 
will work, if the old one could be a dud, so could the new one.  In 
fact, its quite possible you could throw out a good one in favor of a bad.


As a coastal cruiser who occasionally goes 20 miles offshore, and might 
do an overnight once every few years, and is almost always within VHF 
range of help, I shouldn't need a huge number of flares.  However, the 
legal requirement is paltry for going outside the harbor, so I get a 
small assortment of high quality SOLAS flares every year.  Thus, after 3 
years I'll have a fair collection of current flares, but I'm not about 
to throw $100 worth of older flares because of a small, but increasing 
possibility that they don't work.

This does bring up a few questions: at what age to you definitely trash 
a flare?  My answer so far has been at about the time I sell my boat! 
However, I should look for a "flare training event" where I can try out 
my old ones.  Also, if you did need to use a flare, would you use the 
oldest first (save the new for when you're really desperate) or do you 
use the newest first?  I think it depends on the cir***stances - if the 
re's a small window (plane overhead?) you want to take your best shot, 
but if its a large window (slow moving ****p) try an older flare first.
 




 54 Posts in Topic:
Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-13 12:55:03 
Re: Flare replacement
"Sal's Dad" <  2008-05-13 13:06:19 
Re: Flare replacement
Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 10:21:23 
Re: Flare replacement
lonchamp <floncham@[EM  2008-05-13 19:42:21 
Re: Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-13 13:53:34 
Re: Flare replacement
Vic Smith <thismailaut  2008-05-13 13:25:18 
Re: Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-13 16:03:15 
Re: Flare replacement
Bruce in Bangkok <decy  2008-05-14 08:30:51 
Re: Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-14 05:49:40 
Re: Flare replacement
Bruce in Bangkok <decy  2008-05-15 07:12:49 
Re: Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-14 21:36:05 
Re: Flare replacement
jganz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-16 14:52:06 
Re: Flare replacement
salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-17 06:57:03 
Re: Flare replacement
jganz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-19 02:06:34 
Re: Flare replacement
richardcasady@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 21:28:13 
Re: Flare replacement
Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 12:12:25 
Re: Flare replacement
"Don White" <  2008-05-13 17:23:43 
Re: Flare replacement
Justin C <justin.0804@  2008-05-14 23:32:45 
Re: Flare replacement
"~^ beancounter ~^&q  2008-05-13 14:17:22 
Re: Flare replacement
"mosquitofarm@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 19:08:37 
Re: Flare replacement
Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 20:29:08 
Re: Flare replacement
richardcasady@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 04:27:52 
Re: Flare replacement
jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 06:59:03 
Re: Flare replacement
Vic Smith <thismailaut  2008-05-14 07:40:29 
Re: Flare replacement
jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 09:20:18 
Re: Flare replacement
Vic Smith <thismailaut  2008-05-14 15:51:01 
Re: Flare replacement
jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 18:07:55 
Re: Flare replacement
Vic Smith <thismailaut  2008-05-14 21:20:50 
Re: Flare replacement
Jere Lull <jerelull@[E  2008-05-15 04:35:10 
Re: Flare replacement
jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 08:42:52 
Re: Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-14 06:22:06 
Re: Flare replacement
Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 09:33:45 
Re: Flare replacement
salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 12:56:52 
Re: Flare replacement
"Edgar" <ejc  2008-05-14 19:02:20 
Re: Flare replacement
7seassinbad@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-14 10:18:04 
Re: Flare replacement
Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 11:17:25 
Re: Flare replacement
salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 14:48:12 
Re: Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-14 18:30:16 
Re: Flare replacement
7seassinbad@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-19 06:53:54 
Re: Flare replacement
salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-13 14:28:03 
Re: Flare replacement
jeff <jeff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 16:07:42 
Re: Flare replacement
salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-13 17:32:44 
Re: Flare replacement
jganz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-16 14:47:40 
Re: Flare replacement
salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-17 06:54:18 
Re: Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-17 07:19:01 
Re: Flare replacement
salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-17 07:34:20 
Re: Flare replacement
salty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-17 07:41:20 
Re: Flare replacement
"Roger Long" &l  2008-05-17 09:46:50 
Re: Flare replacement
"Don White" <  2008-05-17 11:25:33 
Re: Flare replacement
Bob <freya2go@[EMAIL P  2008-05-21 07:02:41 
Re: Flare replacement
7seassinbad@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-21 10:16:22 
Re: Flare replacement
richardcasady@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-22 14:45:15 
Re: Flare replacement
"Edgar" <ejc  2008-05-22 17:15:40 
Re: Flare replacement
7seassinbad@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-22 08:41:49 

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