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Re: What's a finish

by Roy Smith <roy@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 20, 2006 at 09:52 AM

In article <1164025601.721279.52310@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 "Stephen Page" <steve@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Off to the hypothetical for a moment.  My son rigs his spin****r
> halyard wth an added knot that holds the head of the sail away from the
> mast by six inches. For him, that is its normal position.  However, not
> everyone does it.

"Normal position" is one of those things like "proper course" which, to a 
certain extent, is a judgment call.  The intent of the definition of 
fini****ng is to prevent you from sticking some part of the boat or crew
out 
in front of the bow for the sole purpose of getting it across the finish 
line faster.

If you can show that the equipment has been in that position for most of 
the downwind leg, that should be enough to convince a PC that it was in 
it's normal position.  With a stopper knot in the spin halyard, that
should 
be a no-brainer.

On the J/24, we'll sometimes let the spin halyard down about a foot in 
light air.  If somebody claimed that wasn't it's normal position, it would

be easy for me to point out that it's common practice, not just on our 
boat, but on other boats in the class.  If we had the chute that way for 
the whole downwind leg, it should not be an issue.  If, on the other hand,

I had somebody standing at the mast and had them let the halyard droop 12 
inches just as we approached the finish line, that would NOT be the normal

position.

Likewise, it's a common tactic on a downwind finish to punch the boat down

when you're maybe a boatlength from the line.  Since you're changing your 
sailing angle, you need to ease the spin sheet to keep the sail properly 
trimmed througout the maneuver.  As long as you only eased the sheet that 
amount which was required to keep it in proper trim, I'd say the sail was 
in its normal position the whole time.

> So, if my son got protested for not having the kite
> "in its normal position", I wonder how the Protest Committee would
> interpret the definition.

It's always dangerous to try to predict what a Protect Committee will do
:-)

However, not having a sail in its normal position isn't a violation of the

rules.  Well, at least not the RRS; an individual class might have some 
more explicit rule about it.

The onus is on the Race Committee to take your finish time properly.  If 
your spin****r is out of its normal position at the finish, it's up to the

RC to record your time when you DO meet the definition of fini****ng. 
Let's 
say you're in a s****t boat with a retractable bowsprit.  It's normal for 
the sprit to be extended on an apparent beam reach, with the spin****r 
trimmed in hard.  If, 1/2 boatlength from the finish, you suddenly ease
the 
spin sheet and let the sail billow out in front of the boat, the RC should

be alert enough to ignore when your sail crosses the line (because it's
out 
of normal postion) and take your time when the tip of your sprit crosses 
the line (because it *is* in normal position).

If somebody protests you, your defense is that you didn't break any rules 
by doing what you did.  If you were truly a s****tsman, you would suggest
to 
the protestor that the correct remedy to seek would be to request redress 
from the RC because they incorrectly recorded your finish time.  You would

then offer to testify at the redress hearing that you did indeed hear a 
whistle from the RC a couple of seconds before you thought your sprit tip 
crossed the line and suggest that your official fini****ng time should be 
increased by that amount of time.
 




 5 Posts in Topic:
What's a finish
"Stephen Page"   2006-11-19 10:17:54 
Re: What's a finish
Roy Smith <roy@[EMAIL   2006-11-19 13:44:29 
Re: What's a finish
"Stephen Page"   2006-11-20 04:26:41 
Re: What's a finish
G Jones <nospam@[EMAIL  2006-11-20 08:04:48 
Re: What's a finish
Roy Smith <roy@[EMAIL   2006-11-20 09:52:56 

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